talk.religion.misc,"halat pooh bears \( jim halat \) subject 2000 years , say christian morality reply halat pooh bears \( jim halat \) lines 43 article 1993apr15 wam umd edu , wam umd edu \( jay stein objectively subjective \) writes horus ap mchp sni de frank d012s658 uucp \( frank o'dwyer \) discussion christianity objective morals question effective difference objective values exist , disagreement values subjective \? n't see difference saying absolute truth exists , people think lie truth relative \? think examples , first statement fundamental disagreement least two people second statement agreed upon put another way , someone says objective values exist agree values subjective jim halat"
talk.religion.misc,"halat pooh bears \( jim halat \) subject 2000 years , say christian morality reply halat pooh bears \( jim halat \) lines 17 article na4 horus ap mchp sni de , frank d012s658 uucp \( frank o'dwyer \) writes really \? n't know objective value \? offered people u , collectively , 1 land america , would sound like good deal \? happens subjective example people us would happen agree continue move price point people would accept probably would accept high enough number endpoints subjective scale given homes objective viewpoints jim halat"
talk.religion.misc,"halat pooh bears \( jim halat \) subject 2000 years , say christian morality reply halat pooh bears \( jim halat \) lines 34 article horus ap mchp sni de , frank d012s658 uucp \( frank o'dwyer \) writes firstly , science basis values , way round better explain objective atoms , get subjective values , go atoms objective n't even real scientists call atom nothing mathematical model describes certain physical , observable properties surroundings subjective objective , though , approach scientist takes discussing model observations objective science objective approach subjectively selected scientist objective case means specified , unchanging set rules colleagues use discuss science contrast objective morality may objective approach subjectively discuss beliefs morality exists objective morality also , science deals discuss observations physical world around us method discussion objective \( science discussion \) science makes claims know even sometimes observe simply gives us way discuss surroundings meaningful , consistent way think bohr said \( paraphrase \) science say physical world jim halat"
talk.religion.misc,"mwilson ncratl atlantaga ncr com \( mark wilson \) subject message mr president know happened \? organization ncr engineering manufacturing atlanta atlanta , ga lines 58 noose ecn purdue edu tbrent bank ecn purdue edu \( timothy j brent \) writes probably , n't pack heavy weaponry intent use please cite evidence intending use n't really think allowed keep stuff \? \? , tell live sure steer well clear check sig public also rights , placed individual society rights individuals rights go ahead , call commie , ok , commie 'd singing different tune exercised right rape daughter think right rape anyone \? wonder n't care others broke law , please indicate law feel koresh broke , convicted said crime threat society , feel owning guns makes threat society ou going start going knives baseball bats well feel someone spouts unpopular ideas definition threat society job simple simple think job assualt civilians support first , second , fourth , fifth , sixth , eighth amendment rights , lest taken away fbi davidians think 'll support \( except 2 \) words n't support mob rule n't prettier merely mob calls government ai n't charity using someone else 's money wilson 's theory relativity go back far enough , 're related mark wilson atlantaga ncr com"
talk.religion.misc,"alizard tweekco uucp \( lizard \) subject 14 apr 93 god 's promise 1 john 1 7 organization com systems bbs , , ca \( 510 \) 631 lines 20 starowl rahul net \( michael adams \) writes anyone netland process devising new religion , use lamb bull , already reserved please choose another animal , preferably one endangered species list washed blood barney dinosaur \? \) judging postings 've read usenet non usenet bbs conferences , barney definitely endangered species especially runs dark alley lizard lizard internet addresses alizard tweekco boo pacbell com \( preferred \) pacbell com ! boo ! tweekco ! alizard \( bang path \) alizard com \( backup \) pgp2 2 public key available request"
talk.religion.misc,"alizard tweekco uucp \( lizard \) subject oto , ancient order oriental templars organization com systems bbs , , ca \( 510 \) 631 lines 18 thyagi cup portal com \( thyagi morgoth nagasiva \) writes organization known present time ancient order oriental templars ordo templi orientis otherwise hermetic brotherhood light organization official e mail address days \? \( address sf bay area lodges , e g would \) 93 lizard lizard internet addresses alizard tweekco boo pacbell com \( preferred \) pacbell com ! boo ! tweekco ! alizard \( bang path \) alizard com \( backup \) pgp2 2 public key available request"
